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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.01.16 03:43:00 -
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Well every faction has 2 BS bonuses so I think, while Gal. Ships do need a bonus to get up close, a 3rd bonus would be unfair. So here is my analysis of the situation and a solution:
All the comments seem to be about Amarr ships and their uber cap. And another argument is that WMDs eat both shiled and cap in order for Gal. BS to get close enough to do damage (both Dom. and Mega need MWD to work).
As others have said, increasing the cap would be a good idea. Making the increase high enough to negate MWD usage would work. Then increase cap usage for Rails (long range setup) to balance out a ships that decide not to use a MWD. Another option would be to just decrease Rail and Blaster cap costs.
Since the focus is on Amarr ship damage, increase EM resistances for shild and armor. As a close range ship which fits a MWD, shileds aren't usually tanked and are generally expected to be eaten away until the gap is closed-so they should be designed to take that initial damage. Increasing resistance will allow a Gal. BS to close the gap and still have a fighting chance when they get to their opponent. To further discourage shild tanking, a decrease in shild recharge rate should accompany any shild resistance increase.
My 2isk OnDa
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.01.24 07:58:00 -
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On Drones . . .
Well it would be a good start to introduce better drones, but lets not turn this into a DRONE thread . . . lest focus on the Gal. Battleship class as a whole. The Megathron wouldn't benefit as much as the Dom. would with the introduction of new drones.
So, on the Battleships . . .
Change Blaster & Rail cap costs and Increase BS base speeds. This would put rails back on an even level with other weapons. And since Gal. BSs needs to fit either an AB or MWD to close the gap, the speed increase would give them that ability w/out having to increase cap. Some would argue that the megathrons would then just hit uber speeds with MWDs. The reality is that a BS, due to MWD cap costs, would be unable to sustain that speed for long. Thus, ABs would be a better alternative for the Mega and Domi to close the gap to use standard Gal. tactics.
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:40:00 -
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Wow, we are up to 20 pages now. Hmm, do ya think they hope to ignore this till we give up and go away?
To Sum Up The Last 20 Pages:
Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.01.30 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath Edited by: Noriath on 28/01/2005 20:20:28
Originally by: OnDa Rag To Sum Up The Last 20 Pages:
Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
Erh÷ht die Gallante Schlachtschiffgeschwindigkeit oder den Energiespeicher f³r MWD.
Erh÷ht die Ausrichtungsgeschwindigkeit f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
Verringert den Energieverbrauch f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
F³hrt 500m¦ Schlachtschiff-killer Dronen ein.
Hm, so, it's in German now, does that help? haha ;)
Nice!!! Thanks Noriath!!! Can I have a few more translations in some other languages?!?!? 
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.01 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fuze Rogue Edited by: Fuze Rogue on 31/01/2005 01:46:15
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: OnDa Rag
Originally by: Noriath Edited by: Noriath on 28/01/2005 20:20:28
Originally by: OnDa Rag To Sum Up The Last 20 Pages:
Increase Gal BS. Base Speeds or Increase Cap For MWD
Increase Hybrid Tracking
Decrease Hybrid Cap Usage
Make 500m3 BS Killing Drones
Hmm . . .maybe it would help if someone translated these suggestions into another language . . .
Erh÷ht die Gallante Schlachtschiffgeschwindigkeit oder den Energiespeicher f³r MWD.
Erh÷ht die Ausrichtungsgeschwindigkeit f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
Verringert den Energieverbrauch f³r Hybride Gesch³tze.
F³hrt 500m¦ Schlachtschiff-killer Dronen ein.
Hm, so, it's in German now, does that help? haha ;)
Nice!!! Thanks Noriath!!! Can I have a few more translations in some other languages?!?!? 
Due to public demand:
Íka Gallente slagskepps bas hastighet eller minska energikõrnans f÷rbrukning f÷r MWD
Íka hybridvapnens vridhastighet
Minska hybridvapnens energikõrnekrav
Inf÷r 500 kubikmeters m÷rdardr÷nare
Swedish.
Oh, and the last few pages of "signed"... /me signs Can't remember actually writing that, but there it is. And not very surprising
Augmentez la vitesse de base ou augmentez l'Únergie pour l'utilisation du MWD sur les nef-de-guerres Gallente.
Augmentez la precision des tourelles hybride.
Diminuez l'Únergie utilisÚ par les tourelles hybride.
CrÚez des drones 500m3 tueurs de nef-de-guerres.
Translated into old-fashioned Gallantean now. 
Originally by: Olivin
in Russian:
Увеличить крейсерскую скорость или увеличить емкость конденсатора.
Улучшить отслеживание перемещения цели для Гибридных пушек и бластеров
Уменьшить затраты конденсатора на обслуживание Гибридных пушек и бластеров
Предоставить новых дронов линкор-класса (500 м3)
and SIGNED!

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I](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) Sure someone w/ a hell of a lot of skill points wielding T2/Named Gunz and a lot of named mods can make the ship run decently . . . but is it fair that someone can do the same (or even better) w/ a cheaper setup and less skillpoints if they fly another ship?
Balance means we all have a fighting chance w/ the same level of training and same resources. That is currently not the case w/ Gal. Ships . . .
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: WizEye
Originally by: RaphKa may this post be on the boards for ever !!!
This will be on the boards until something is done.
31 pages . . . no response . . . and still this thread will not die.
I dont think we will be going away any time soon. Oho yeah . . . ignore the other Gal. BS thread . .its an attempt to draw attention away from and kill this one.
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.16 00:21:00 -
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This thread shall not die!!!!!!

Ditto to the last 600+ posts
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.24 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox This is a dumb thread I've never read . . .
Dude, how the hell can you rant on something you haven't read or at least made an attempt to keep up with. Ya are setting yourself up to look rather ignorant . . .
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox I feel honestly free to say that Gallentee battleships are just fine . . . If this was such an issue why wasn't it brought up? Why did you wait until AFTER they played with projectile weapons?
Well here you go . . . for startes if you ACTUALLY READ the original post you will see it was dated BEFORE the projectile patch.
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox This is dumb. The only thing I understand is "wrong" if you can even call it that, with gallentee battleships is that they rely on hybrid turrents which can take as much cap as laser turrets... that's seems off.
Hmm . . . again if you read the posts you will see that a majority of the posts focus on the Large Hybrids TRACKING problems which are significantly gimped compared to other gunz. The other issue is that a Mega using a MWD is severly gimped in its cap usage . . .
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox I think the ships themselves should have better cap bonuses specifically for hybrids, but that's just me.
Well at least you agree with the thread . . .
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox Gal (if they are truely gimped at all) are not gimped enough to diserve a massive overtaking.
Um , the thread doesn't focus on tanking so where the hell did u get this from . . . oho yeah ya didn't read the thread.
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox I don't care if you don't agree because I won't respond to flames.
Thats excpected since you obviously, and admittedly, didn't even read the thread . . .
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox A smart pilot will always have the best advantage over a dumb one. Period.
Which is why a majority of PVP pilots fly Caldari and Amarr BSs. The Mega is a very balanced ship you can go for damage or you can go for tank . . . but its difficult to do both. The thread is asking just for other ships to be placed on the same level. Its not about the mega its about its Turrets and features of other ships being overpowered.
Lesson: read a bit of a thread before ya rant and make yourself look prety ignorant. 
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